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Questions about this software

By Coltraine Bill @Bobmat2020-05-02 21:39:06.435Z

Hello.

I found this app and it looks it could meet my needs. I have a news community, and I discovered dev.lemmy.ml, which is software inspired in the old reddit, however, thought promissing it is still lacking in many aspects. My other choice was discourse, which is very solid software with many COOL features, however they use this flat, cronological sorting of comments which I feel is a bit too old school, oudated, and doesn't fit my needs really well.

Then found Talkyard. It looks like a nice middle ground between what the above mentioned software have to offer. However I have some questions:

  1. I posted a link to this forum on twitter and it didn't create a twitter card. Is that configurable or not possible yet?

  2. I posted links to twitter and youtube in the test forum and it didn't embed the preview or video. Not doable?

  3. Can thumbnail previews on topics be enabled?

  4. Lemmy and discourse have a feature that you post a link to an article or page and automatically get the title from the destination article, creting a link thread (just like reddit) . Is or will this be doable in talkyard?

Thank you in avance.

  • 9 replies
  1. KajMagnus @KajMagnus2020-05-04 12:10:56.483Z

    Hi Bill, thanks for writing,

    1. > it didn't create a twitter card. Is that configurable or not possible yet?

    Not yet implemented

    2. > I posted links to twitter and youtube

    YouTube video links work, e.g. if you post a video like https://youtu.be/j8VdehTuZfw on a single line:

    But if there's text on the line above, or below, or other text on the same line — then won't work (because then Talkyard thinks it's supposed to be a normal "text link" not an embedded video). — Maybe this is too restrictive?

    I'd like to make this work with Twitter cards too

    3.

    Can thumbnail previews on topics be enabled?

    Yes, if you go to the forum topic list page (typically the forum homepage), click the edit pencil next to the forum title, then click "Layout and settings", then choose "Excerpt and preview images below title".

    If you go here: https://beautiful.demo.talkyard.io/latest and scroll down, you'll see thumbnails.
    (Hmm I should clean up a bit over there, now there're many weird test topics, looks weird)

    4.

    post a link to an article or page and automatically get the title from the destination article, creting a link thread (just like reddit) . Is or will this be doable in talkyard?

    Is not, but will be, doable, yes.

    ***

    Thanks for having explained a bit how you are thinking about Lemmy, Discourse, Talkyard — I'm always curious about things like that.

    they use this flat, cronological sorting of comments which I feel is a bit too old school, oudated, and doesn't fit my needs really well

    I think you're right about that — I think for discussing news, then, threaded discussions like at Reddit / HackerNews / Lemmy / Talkyard, works better, since people tend to create separate "sub discussions" about the news article (rather than having just one single thing to talk about, just one main thread).

    I didn't know about Lemmy :- ) Interesting that they will have some kind of federation feature. I might ask them how they will build that.

    What is your news community about if I may ask? Software but what software / how :- )

    1. BColtraine Bill @Bobmat2020-05-14 18:07:12.720Z2020-05-14 21:21:34.844Z

      Hello again.

      I gave talkyard a try to have a more direct experience and I like what I am seeing. I have some comments.

      So far the most critical absence is the lack of twitter, facebook, and media embeds. Nowadays many important information comes from those sources so the ability to embed posts from there is a must (in fact this is one of the reasons I moved away from Lemmy, and too little administrative control over the app, which is not a problem in talkyard).

      I also would need some better instructions to instala behing nginx reverse proxy. I gave it a try but after welcome page got a "blocked cross script request" (TyE0SRVR).

      With regards to thumbail, I think it would be preferible to put the image either to the left of the thread title, above the thread title, or in between tittle and extract. I think this is more intuitive, as it is the usual format newspapers and wordpress sites organize the "featured image" of articles.

      All in all I like this software. I want to make a translation into spanish. I can you help me with that? I didn't quite understand the instructions in the code. EDIT: nevermind, I am already working in the translatiin. My question is, do I need to rebuild the whole app to make the new language appear in the menú? Do I need to upload it to github before being able to use it?

      Btw, my community is about news, something like r/Worldnews but on a local level in Chile.

      1. KajMagnus @KajMagnus2020-07-06 07:22:27.711Z

        (Sorry for not replying until now, I think I a bit forgot)

        I also would need some better instructions to instala behing nginx reverse proxy. I gave it a try but after welcome page got a "blocked cross script request" (TyE0SRVR).

        Did you happen to first use Talkyard over http and then switched to https? What about configuring talkyard.secure = true in /opt/talkyard/conf/play-framework.conf?

        the most critical absence is the lack of twitter, facebook, and media embeds

        Will be included in the upcoming version (Twitter, FB, Reddit and some others).

        thumbnail ... to the left of the thread title

        That's a good idea, and some other people want this too. I suppose the thumbnail placement should be configurable

        About Spanish, and Chile, someone recently translated to Spanish, Chile — maybe you're from the same Internet community?

      2. In reply toKajMagnus:
        CAnosua Mukhopadhyay @chinikins2020-07-06 03:58:33.335Z

        I get the same error as @Bobmat. Once https is enabled, everything loads but it fails on trying to find -/assets/v0.6.68-WIP-1/zxcvbn.js giving the error "Has the server stopped? Or did you just get disconnected from the Internet? Or is the hostname or port number wrong, cross-origin request blocked? [TyE0SRVR]"

        1. KajMagnus @KajMagnus2020-07-06 07:17:38.713Z2020-07-06 07:23:59.335Z

          The Talkyard forum doesn't happen to be online somewhere? Then I can have a look
          (It's self hosted, right?)

          What about configuring talkyard.secure = true in /opt/talkyard/conf/play-framework.conf?

          1. CAnosua Mukhopadhyay @chinikins2020-07-06 14:11:22.749Z

            That is set to true. My website is talk.friendsinthebay.com thanks

            1. In reply toKajMagnus:
              CAnosua Mukhopadhyay @chinikins2020-07-06 16:36:18.893Z

              I also see errors like 2020/07/06 16:35:13 [error] 25790#25790: *115 open() "/opt/talkyard/assets/talkyard-service-worker.min.js" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 73.223.75.85, server: talk.friendsinthebay.com, request: "GET /talkyard-service-worker.min.js HTTP/1.1", host: "talk.friendsinthebay.com" in the nginx error log

              1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                CAnosua Mukhopadhyay @chinikins2020-07-06 18:10:22.111Z

                Ah, I figured out the issue. So I'd installed the docker setup for talkyard-prod-one, but as I'm hosting it on a server already running nginx, I originally tried two setups.

                The first was that I'd tried the nginx on my host proxying to 8080 that the docker-proxy would expose from the dockerized nginx. That was working for base calls but not for things looking for assets folder. I ended up copying stuff from the dockerized nginx config to the local one, and docker cp'd the assets folder from the web container to my host and it's now working. Thank you!

                1. KajMagnus @KajMagnus2020-07-16 01:44:11.068Z

                  Hi Anosua, thanks for describing how you got it working :- )

                  I ended up copying stuff from the dockerized nginx config to the local one, and docker cp'd the assets folder from the web container to my host

                  I'm thinking this'll break, later when there's a new version of Talkyard, with new modified assets? (because the assets that got copied, will then be the old ones)

                  was working for base calls but not for things looking for assets folder

                  Hmm that sounds unusual. What if you created a different topic here in the forum and post the config of your proxy? (With private internal net details, if any, edited out)